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		<title>By: Deep</title>
		<link>http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2007/12/29/urban-sound-system-2/comment-page-1/#comment-41400</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the 1970&#039;s, talks of separation and acts by the FLQ, scared many corporations, particularly the financial sector. Many companies moved their Canadian headquarters from Montreal to Toronto. Since those days, Montreal has been turning itself into the &quot;anti-Toronto&quot;. Focusing on creative and artistic economies, showing little interest in being a financial center. The city is home to a whole variety of artistic innovation. Cirque du Solei began as a street performance in Montreal. Every summer the city has become Le Ville de Festivals. A stroll down St Catherine&#039;s during the summer, you&#039;re bound to see a whole slew of different types of artistic performers. Even in the winter, people are not afraid to go out. 

The fact that the city is a multi-cultural city, a city where both Anglophones and Francophones live side by side, enables the city to attract a diverse array of individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the 1970&#8217;s, talks of separation and acts by the FLQ, scared many corporations, particularly the financial sector. Many companies moved their Canadian headquarters from Montreal to Toronto. Since those days, Montreal has been turning itself into the &#8220;anti-Toronto&#8221;. Focusing on creative and artistic economies, showing little interest in being a financial center. The city is home to a whole variety of artistic innovation. Cirque du Solei began as a street performance in Montreal. Every summer the city has become Le Ville de Festivals. A stroll down St Catherine&#8217;s during the summer, you&#8217;re bound to see a whole slew of different types of artistic performers. Even in the winter, people are not afraid to go out. </p>
<p>The fact that the city is a multi-cultural city, a city where both Anglophones and Francophones live side by side, enables the city to attract a diverse array of individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: kristen</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have a question. do u sing country music? u can email my back at kbrienzi@yahoo.com  thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have a question. do u sing country music? u can email my back at <a href="mailto:kbrienzi@yahoo.com">kbrienzi@yahoo.com</a>  thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Ipolito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Ipolito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toronto had a very vibrant scene in the late 70&#039;s through the mid-80&#039;s. The clubs were plentiful and many great local bands were busy.Every important group worldwide would visit. The city had a feeling that it truly was at the center of a great thing.Of course, everyone believed that New York City was the true destination, and they would head there at the first opportunity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toronto had a very vibrant scene in the late 70&#8217;s through the mid-80&#8217;s. The clubs were plentiful and many great local bands were busy.Every important group worldwide would visit. The city had a feeling that it truly was at the center of a great thing.Of course, everyone believed that New York City was the true destination, and they would head there at the first opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Sathish Bala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sathish Bala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great read. i produce desiFEST - largest south asian music festival in toronto. This year we are also launching desiFEST in montreal and vancouver. Both of these cities have growing significantly over the last few years and we feel there is a &quot;scene&quot; that is now ready for this type of fusion music. if you are interested, i can keep you posted on our progress. it is exciting to be the first national south asian music festival.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great read. i produce desiFEST &#8211; largest south asian music festival in toronto. This year we are also launching desiFEST in montreal and vancouver. Both of these cities have growing significantly over the last few years and we feel there is a &#8220;scene&#8221; that is now ready for this type of fusion music. if you are interested, i can keep you posted on our progress. it is exciting to be the first national south asian music festival.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Rocha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Rocha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 23:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read your article a few times to take it all in. I&#039;ve entrenched myself in the music industry in Toronto as a music producer and keep as up to date as possible with it. I&#039;ve never before read about analyzing music&#039;s effect on regional economies since the people within the music industry are constantly trying to analyze the inverse: the respective regional economy&#039;s effect on the music, and more specifically how to make music profitable for someone in an artistically creative industry where integrity is key to being taken seriously.

To the typical independent musician that I work with, associating with a corporation usually equals disaster. Feist&#039;s association with apple computers has provided the kindling for many of her die-hard hands to toss out her &quot;indie&quot;-credibility. It&#039;s a very hard decision to make for an artist as there is nothing they fear more than being labeled as a &quot;sell-out.&quot;

Since integrity for the artistic community is of utmost value it is easy to understand why large corporations, such as the ones you listed, would want to associate and piggy-back on their integrity; unfortunately, most of these associations result in the music scene being crushed. This happens in many ways, but the most frequent way is because the rent is driven too high by the infiltration of high paying businesses that want to be associated with a region.

Musicians may be cool, but they are also poor. This gentrification has happened many times in Toronto. Yorkville has completed its transformation, Liberty Village is nearly there, and Kensington Market has a big bulls-eye on it.

I might be the perfect example of this effect. I&#039;m 24 and my wife and I are fortunate enough to be living in downtown Toronto, but only because we are currently residents of University of Toronto&#039;s subsidized student family housing, where she is working on her master&#039;s degree. When our term is up here, we will be forced to move out of the downtown core and into a region of the city where there is &quot;no scene&quot;. My studio is still located in downtown Toronto, but on a whim that may be forced to relocate out of it&#039;s hip area if the rent is forced up. This is the main reason why artistically creative groups share an anti-corporate sentiment.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your article a few times to take it all in. I&#8217;ve entrenched myself in the music industry in Toronto as a music producer and keep as up to date as possible with it. I&#8217;ve never before read about analyzing music&#8217;s effect on regional economies since the people within the music industry are constantly trying to analyze the inverse: the respective regional economy&#8217;s effect on the music, and more specifically how to make music profitable for someone in an artistically creative industry where integrity is key to being taken seriously.</p>
<p>To the typical independent musician that I work with, associating with a corporation usually equals disaster. Feist&#8217;s association with apple computers has provided the kindling for many of her die-hard hands to toss out her &#8220;indie&#8221;-credibility. It&#8217;s a very hard decision to make for an artist as there is nothing they fear more than being labeled as a &#8220;sell-out.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since integrity for the artistic community is of utmost value it is easy to understand why large corporations, such as the ones you listed, would want to associate and piggy-back on their integrity; unfortunately, most of these associations result in the music scene being crushed. This happens in many ways, but the most frequent way is because the rent is driven too high by the infiltration of high paying businesses that want to be associated with a region.</p>
<p>Musicians may be cool, but they are also poor. This gentrification has happened many times in Toronto. Yorkville has completed its transformation, Liberty Village is nearly there, and Kensington Market has a big bulls-eye on it.</p>
<p>I might be the perfect example of this effect. I&#8217;m 24 and my wife and I are fortunate enough to be living in downtown Toronto, but only because we are currently residents of University of Toronto&#8217;s subsidized student family housing, where she is working on her master&#8217;s degree. When our term is up here, we will be forced to move out of the downtown core and into a region of the city where there is &#8220;no scene&#8221;. My studio is still located in downtown Toronto, but on a whim that may be forced to relocate out of it&#8217;s hip area if the rent is forced up. This is the main reason why artistically creative groups share an anti-corporate sentiment.</p>
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		<title>By: RF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael - In the project, we will deal with all genres across the 20th and 21sct centuries but focus on blues influenced genres, I think, in the mid-20th through early 21st centuries.

Your point about folk (and I would add country and bluegrass) is well taken. As a guitarist, who started playing in the mid 1960s, I was actually unaware of their influence on playing and .... on my own playing.  I was of course a big fan of Hendrix, Clapton, Beck, Page and Johnny Winter (who&#039;s fade from the public ear is tragic). I never realized how influenced they were by these other traditions. Hendrix spent a good deal of time in Nashville and then in the Village around folkies.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael &#8211; In the project, we will deal with all genres across the 20th and 21sct centuries but focus on blues influenced genres, I think, in the mid-20th through early 21st centuries.</p>
<p>Your point about folk (and I would add country and bluegrass) is well taken. As a guitarist, who started playing in the mid 1960s, I was actually unaware of their influence on playing and &#8230;. on my own playing.  I was of course a big fan of Hendrix, Clapton, Beck, Page and Johnny Winter (who&#8217;s fade from the public ear is tragic). I never realized how influenced they were by these other traditions. Hendrix spent a good deal of time in Nashville and then in the Village around folkies.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the story about Nashville is not only as a recording center for the genres you mention, but its other music as well -- the Nashville Jazz Workshop, or the symphony which just built a new symphony hall and hired Costa Rican conductor Giancarlo Guerrero from the Eugene, Oregon Symphony. (What is it about Eugene? The last conductor, Marion Alsop, now leads the Baltimore Symphony as well as one in the UK). All of these musics and musicians influence each other, in ways large and small.

Is your research looking beyond pop into broader music scenes? For example, Portland is noted for its indie-rock scene, but has a strong jazz &amp; blues scene, folk/bluegrass, decent symphony &amp; opera and groups such as Portland Baroque Orchestra, Chamber Music Northwest festival, Third Angle &quot;new music&quot; and lots of others. Local/international favorite Pink Martini plays rhumba, camp hits and their own songs in multiple languages.

I think you&#039;re right about the interplay and &quot;thick job markets&quot; but that the influence is probably broader than what&#039;s popular with kids at the moment. I&#039;ve long thought that the folk revival of the early 60&#039;s made the rock of the late &#039;60&#039;s possible, because it taught so many musicians to actually play guitar. Listen to the three chord strumming of &#039;50&#039;s Elvis vs. the guitars of Jerry Garcia, Jimi Hendrix, Michael Bloomfield in the &#039;60&#039;s and you hear the debt popular music owes the blues. Or follow the incredible journey of the Beatles through the musical universe.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the story about Nashville is not only as a recording center for the genres you mention, but its other music as well &#8212; the Nashville Jazz Workshop, or the symphony which just built a new symphony hall and hired Costa Rican conductor Giancarlo Guerrero from the Eugene, Oregon Symphony. (What is it about Eugene? The last conductor, Marion Alsop, now leads the Baltimore Symphony as well as one in the UK). All of these musics and musicians influence each other, in ways large and small.</p>
<p>Is your research looking beyond pop into broader music scenes? For example, Portland is noted for its indie-rock scene, but has a strong jazz &#038; blues scene, folk/bluegrass, decent symphony &#038; opera and groups such as Portland Baroque Orchestra, Chamber Music Northwest festival, Third Angle &#8220;new music&#8221; and lots of others. Local/international favorite Pink Martini plays rhumba, camp hits and their own songs in multiple languages.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right about the interplay and &#8220;thick job markets&#8221; but that the influence is probably broader than what&#8217;s popular with kids at the moment. I&#8217;ve long thought that the folk revival of the early 60&#8217;s made the rock of the late &#8217;60&#8217;s possible, because it taught so many musicians to actually play guitar. Listen to the three chord strumming of &#8217;50&#8217;s Elvis vs. the guitars of Jerry Garcia, Jimi Hendrix, Michael Bloomfield in the &#8217;60&#8217;s and you hear the debt popular music owes the blues. Or follow the incredible journey of the Beatles through the musical universe.</p>
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