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		<title>By: qkslvrwolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>qkslvrwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joe Miller: I was actually going to spend a little bit of time responding to your link, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.radaronline.com/features/2008/05/generation_y_versus_generation_x_winona_ryder_of_montreal_ap.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; response posted at radaronline to the original article covers it quite nicely.

@John:  The point isn&#039;t that everything is just all of a sudden going to be hunky dory.  The point is that this generation, not really by any purpose but rather by circumstance, does have a new way of approaching life and work.  I see it myself, every day, where I&#039;m at as a defence contractor.  The point is that we are going to change the way the world works, and we are going to make it better in the process.  Is everyone going to get in on it?  Of course not.  Being hopeful and optimistic does not automatically equate to being a hippy on drugs who thinks that we&#039;re going to make the world perfect.  We just want to make it better  Draw the distinction.

@Buzzcut:  Greg already handled you, so I won&#039;t team up.  But you&#039;re all kinds of wrong.

@Zoe B:  Email was really only just the beginning.  Wikis, brainstorm modeling, and a whole suite of other collaborative software can take you a lot further than email can.  Also, live meetings are useful for something things...including getting to know your co-workers.  But they are NOT as efficient for collaboration as some of the other tools available.  Even if you&#039;re in the same building as some of the people you work with.  It&#039;s why myself and one of my younger co-workers are pushing hard to get a wiki to replace our current word document based documentation system at work...because it&#039;s a lot more efficent.

@Wil:  I like it.  Give me more.  :-)

@Jake:  The argument that Grown up digital makes is that the boomers will learn from us, and the ones that don&#039;t will fail in business (and, therefore, life ;-)

Anyway...fun post.  :-) Thanks all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joe Miller: I was actually going to spend a little bit of time responding to your link, but <a href="http://www.radaronline.com/features/2008/05/generation_y_versus_generation_x_winona_ryder_of_montreal_ap.php" rel="nofollow">this</a> response posted at radaronline to the original article covers it quite nicely.</p>
<p>@John:  The point isn&#8217;t that everything is just all of a sudden going to be hunky dory.  The point is that this generation, not really by any purpose but rather by circumstance, does have a new way of approaching life and work.  I see it myself, every day, where I&#8217;m at as a defence contractor.  The point is that we are going to change the way the world works, and we are going to make it better in the process.  Is everyone going to get in on it?  Of course not.  Being hopeful and optimistic does not automatically equate to being a hippy on drugs who thinks that we&#8217;re going to make the world perfect.  We just want to make it better  Draw the distinction.</p>
<p>@Buzzcut:  Greg already handled you, so I won&#8217;t team up.  But you&#8217;re all kinds of wrong.</p>
<p>@Zoe B:  Email was really only just the beginning.  Wikis, brainstorm modeling, and a whole suite of other collaborative software can take you a lot further than email can.  Also, live meetings are useful for something things&#8230;including getting to know your co-workers.  But they are NOT as efficient for collaboration as some of the other tools available.  Even if you&#8217;re in the same building as some of the people you work with.  It&#8217;s why myself and one of my younger co-workers are pushing hard to get a wiki to replace our current word document based documentation system at work&#8230;because it&#8217;s a lot more efficent.</p>
<p>@Wil:  I like it.  Give me more.  <img src='http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/_wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Jake:  The argument that Grown up digital makes is that the boomers will learn from us, and the ones that don&#8217;t will fail in business (and, therefore, life <img src='http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/_wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;fun post.  <img src='http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/_wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Thanks all!</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Sloan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Sloan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it&#039;s agreed that the Net-Gen will dominate the work force.  My question is, what will happen to the corporate cities that are destined to be riddled with Boomer money and CEOs for years past 2020?  Living in one of those cities, it has been hard to be seen as anything other than a &quot;kid&quot; in the job market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s agreed that the Net-Gen will dominate the work force.  My question is, what will happen to the corporate cities that are destined to be riddled with Boomer money and CEOs for years past 2020?  Living in one of those cities, it has been hard to be seen as anything other than a &#8220;kid&#8221; in the job market.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long distance collaboration is a way to project and grow a very small business. Having the right long term consultants in target cities is a way to establish an infrastructure that can provide a means to develop and service local clients. Technology makes it work easily.

One thought about the clustering of &quot;net generation&quot; people in certain &quot;spiky cities&quot;: Is a new establishment, composed of people who think alike , being created? A rejection of group think was what the cultural explosion of the 1960s was all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long distance collaboration is a way to project and grow a very small business. Having the right long term consultants in target cities is a way to establish an infrastructure that can provide a means to develop and service local clients. Technology makes it work easily.</p>
<p>One thought about the clustering of &#8220;net generation&#8221; people in certain &#8220;spiky cities&#8221;: Is a new establishment, composed of people who think alike , being created? A rejection of group think was what the cultural explosion of the 1960s was all about.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many academic communities have been collaborating long-distance for decades.  No one has counted the research papers that have been written by people who never met each other in person.  Email has made it easier, but the process has happened for a long time.  

On average long distance academic collaborations have a more flexible timeline than business ones, and may have a smaller budget.  While researchers might not have met their partners on a given project, most research academics can find daily face-to-face conversations with professional peers in the same institution.  Frequent face-to-face meetings may matter more in the beginning of a career.  Lots of excellent academic departments are located in smaller cities and towns.

I think the full potential of long-distance collaboration has yet to be explored.    I am hopeful that the long-distance model can give professionals the flexibility to also meet their childrens&#039; needs. This is important.  While you can do a top-notch project long distance, you should not raise a child that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many academic communities have been collaborating long-distance for decades.  No one has counted the research papers that have been written by people who never met each other in person.  Email has made it easier, but the process has happened for a long time.  </p>
<p>On average long distance academic collaborations have a more flexible timeline than business ones, and may have a smaller budget.  While researchers might not have met their partners on a given project, most research academics can find daily face-to-face conversations with professional peers in the same institution.  Frequent face-to-face meetings may matter more in the beginning of a career.  Lots of excellent academic departments are located in smaller cities and towns.</p>
<p>I think the full potential of long-distance collaboration has yet to be explored.    I am hopeful that the long-distance model can give professionals the flexibility to also meet their childrens&#8217; needs. This is important.  While you can do a top-notch project long distance, you should not raise a child that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Washington D.C. is a very nice city and a productive one at that. But to group The World Bank and IMF with NGOs, The National Gallery, and the Smithsonian is almost blasphemous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Washington D.C. is a very nice city and a productive one at that. But to group The World Bank and IMF with NGOs, The National Gallery, and the Smithsonian is almost blasphemous.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buzzcut your suggestion of choosing Silicon Valley over D.C is irrelevant. If I&#039;m a politico not a microprocessor engineer why would I choose Silicon Valley over D.C. Secondly how productive was Silicon Valley during the tech bubble. Putting &quot;www.&quot; in front of your co. made you a millionaire. I think a lot of unproductive people attempted to ride that wave. 

Now I&#039;m not going to stand here and defend the federal government-favorable bailouts and inefficient bureaucratic machines are problematic. But I will defend Obama. He has produced a cabinet that is pragmatic and bipartisan. Differing political, military, and economic opinions will deliver prudent policies that do not pander to lobbyists or an evangelical ideology but to the well being of America. To Speculate a McCain cabinet isn&#039;t a very convincing argument, but if his VP pick was any indication I feel more comfortable with Obama&#039;s.

I also think net-geners would be offended to think their knowledge of Government was limited to the 80&#039;s and 90&#039;s. History professors would probably feel the same. I&#039;d like to see how well the economy would have faired over the last few months without the government, and how it would do moving forward without proper regulatory oversight.

Lastly to suggest D.C as unproductive is ludicrous. Some of the brightest minds gather within the beltway: World-class think tanks, NGO&#039;s, The World Bank, IMF, The National Gallery of Art, The Smithsonian&#039;s, Global Media Outlets, the list goes on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzzcut your suggestion of choosing Silicon Valley over D.C is irrelevant. If I&#8217;m a politico not a microprocessor engineer why would I choose Silicon Valley over D.C. Secondly how productive was Silicon Valley during the tech bubble. Putting &#8220;www.&#8221; in front of your co. made you a millionaire. I think a lot of unproductive people attempted to ride that wave. </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m not going to stand here and defend the federal government-favorable bailouts and inefficient bureaucratic machines are problematic. But I will defend Obama. He has produced a cabinet that is pragmatic and bipartisan. Differing political, military, and economic opinions will deliver prudent policies that do not pander to lobbyists or an evangelical ideology but to the well being of America. To Speculate a McCain cabinet isn&#8217;t a very convincing argument, but if his VP pick was any indication I feel more comfortable with Obama&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I also think net-geners would be offended to think their knowledge of Government was limited to the 80&#8217;s and 90&#8217;s. History professors would probably feel the same. I&#8217;d like to see how well the economy would have faired over the last few months without the government, and how it would do moving forward without proper regulatory oversight.</p>
<p>Lastly to suggest D.C as unproductive is ludicrous. Some of the brightest minds gather within the beltway: World-class think tanks, NGO&#8217;s, The World Bank, IMF, The National Gallery of Art, The Smithsonian&#8217;s, Global Media Outlets, the list goes on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Buzzcut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzzcut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is just sad that any intelligent, ambitious person would choose D.C. over something productive, like Silicon Valley.

The worst thing about Obama is that he is so inspiring.  He makes people think that government has the answers.

The net generation wasn&#039;t around in the &#039;70s.  It doesn&#039;t know that government is the problem, not the answer.  Maybe the farce of &quot;Bailout Nation&quot; will give them a quick education.  Maybe Obama&#039;s disappointing cabinet (as conventional center-right and Washington insider as any, and not much different than a McCain cabinet would have looked) will give them some insight into how D.C. really works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is just sad that any intelligent, ambitious person would choose D.C. over something productive, like Silicon Valley.</p>
<p>The worst thing about Obama is that he is so inspiring.  He makes people think that government has the answers.</p>
<p>The net generation wasn&#8217;t around in the &#8217;70s.  It doesn&#8217;t know that government is the problem, not the answer.  Maybe the farce of &#8220;Bailout Nation&#8221; will give them a quick education.  Maybe Obama&#8217;s disappointing cabinet (as conventional center-right and Washington insider as any, and not much different than a McCain cabinet would have looked) will give them some insight into how D.C. really works.</p>
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		<title>By: David J. Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>David J. Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, I disagree in the sense that low cost cell phone networks have already made huge inroads into less developed parts of the. They are bringing with them information (from news to market prices) that influences and improves people&#039;s lives. While I do not know Rosedale (is that in Toronto?), i know the dissemination of tech is in fact global, it is still unequal, but improvements are being made globally and are growing.

Rober -- please give us more.... what about spiky world? = diversity, innovation, creativity, learning, commerce, opportunity?

thanks Alex and all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I disagree in the sense that low cost cell phone networks have already made huge inroads into less developed parts of the. They are bringing with them information (from news to market prices) that influences and improves people&#8217;s lives. While I do not know Rosedale (is that in Toronto?), i know the dissemination of tech is in fact global, it is still unequal, but improvements are being made globally and are growing.</p>
<p>Rober &#8212; please give us more&#8230;. what about spiky world? = diversity, innovation, creativity, learning, commerce, opportunity?</p>
<p>thanks Alex and all</p>
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		<title>By: Rober</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Place = family, solidarity, trust, care, assistance, heritage, roots, identity, hospitality, kinship.

Flat world = narcissism, egotism, vanity, profit-seeking, self-indulgence, self-promotion, greed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Place = family, solidarity, trust, care, assistance, heritage, roots, identity, hospitality, kinship.</p>
<p>Flat world = narcissism, egotism, vanity, profit-seeking, self-indulgence, self-promotion, greed.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, a country with 3 times the population has more people online?  Whoever would have guessed...

As someone who has gone to school in Nova Scotia for 5 years now, I can safely say that it is a dying part of our nation that will need more than than a series of tubes to revive it.

The net generation is a farce.  Perhaps a fraction of a percent of the world&#039;s elite will benefit from the technological revolution while the rest of the choking masses will slide further into oblivion as the degree of global inequality increases indefinitely.

I like technology as much as the next guy, but it is something that the vast majority of the world will never experience to the same degree as rich white kids who grew up in Rosedale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, a country with 3 times the population has more people online?  Whoever would have guessed&#8230;</p>
<p>As someone who has gone to school in Nova Scotia for 5 years now, I can safely say that it is a dying part of our nation that will need more than than a series of tubes to revive it.</p>
<p>The net generation is a farce.  Perhaps a fraction of a percent of the world&#8217;s elite will benefit from the technological revolution while the rest of the choking masses will slide further into oblivion as the degree of global inequality increases indefinitely.</p>
<p>I like technology as much as the next guy, but it is something that the vast majority of the world will never experience to the same degree as rich white kids who grew up in Rosedale.</p>
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