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		<title>By: Buzzcut</title>
		<link>http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2009/01/26/whats-up-at-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-9521</link>
		<dc:creator>Buzzcut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents and brother are Mac people.

Other than the &quot;quality&quot;, which truthfully makes no difference to me (I&#039;m a techie), is there anything Vista or the Mac can do that XP can&#039;t?  I take that as a no.

Regarding netbooks, the latest numbers I&#039;ve seen are that 90% of them come with XP, at a cost of $35 a copy.  This is a huge source of growth for Microsoft (although some may argue that, if netbooks are replacing real laptops, it is a net loss for Microsoft).

Linux was the default OS when netbooks were introduced, but it is the availability of XP that started to really drive sales.

There&#039;s actually a new kind of &quot;sub-netbook&quot; out there, just starting to hit the US from Canton.  They&#039;re under $200, they use a Chinese knockoff of the old MIPS processor.  They run some kind of Linux.  They allegedly wholesale for $89 in Canton.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ALPHA-400&amp;cat=NBB&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s one place to get one.&lt;/a&gt;  I&#039;m intrigued, I may pick one up to play with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents and brother are Mac people.</p>
<p>Other than the &#8220;quality&#8221;, which truthfully makes no difference to me (I&#8217;m a techie), is there anything Vista or the Mac can do that XP can&#8217;t?  I take that as a no.</p>
<p>Regarding netbooks, the latest numbers I&#8217;ve seen are that 90% of them come with XP, at a cost of $35 a copy.  This is a huge source of growth for Microsoft (although some may argue that, if netbooks are replacing real laptops, it is a net loss for Microsoft).</p>
<p>Linux was the default OS when netbooks were introduced, but it is the availability of XP that started to really drive sales.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s actually a new kind of &#8220;sub-netbook&#8221; out there, just starting to hit the US from Canton.  They&#8217;re under $200, they use a Chinese knockoff of the old MIPS processor.  They run some kind of Linux.  They allegedly wholesale for $89 in Canton.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ALPHA-400&amp;cat=NBB" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s one place to get one.</a>  I&#8217;m intrigued, I may pick one up to play with.</p>
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		<title>By: hayden fisher</title>
		<link>http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2009/01/26/whats-up-at-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-9516</link>
		<dc:creator>hayden fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wendy, you should definitely try a MAC.  You will be amazed by the difference.  I&#039;ve played with a netbook but never owned one.  But it&#039;s amazing how they&#039;ve impacted the PC market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy, you should definitely try a MAC.  You will be amazed by the difference.  I&#8217;ve played with a netbook but never owned one.  But it&#8217;s amazing how they&#8217;ve impacted the PC market.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... maybe I should try a MAC.  Although I like my Toshiba laptop, I do end up in technical difficulties at least twice a month that take me a couple hours to resolve, usually with the help of an outsourced tech support company.  

Or maybe I need a netbook.  All I seem to do is use the Office Suite and various web-based applications from blogs to corporate citrix e-mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; maybe I should try a MAC.  Although I like my Toshiba laptop, I do end up in technical difficulties at least twice a month that take me a couple hours to resolve, usually with the help of an outsourced tech support company.  </p>
<p>Or maybe I need a netbook.  All I seem to do is use the Office Suite and various web-based applications from blogs to corporate citrix e-mail.</p>
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		<title>By: hayden fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayden fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is there anything that XP can&#039;t do...or Apple can&quot;

Buzzcut, you really need to spend some time on a Mac using the Apple operating system.  The differences are staggering.  When I used PC&#039;s, wasted at least an hour a day complaining, re-booting, calling our IT techie, etc.  I&#039;ve been using macs in my new business for 10 months and I&#039;ve never had one of those days, nor the need even have the number for let alone call an IT techie.  The products just work.  Wonderfully intuitive.  Brilliantly designed.  No viruses.  No spyware.  No worrying about opening attachments.  No lost work product.  Etc., etc.

Microsoft is getting killed in the netbook market.  And here&#039;s the problem.  PC&#039;s cannot compete with Apple on the product quality level and can no longer compete with netbooks on cost.  That&#039;s a recipe for disaster.  Those Windows&#039; licensing fees still drive MS&#039;s business model.  If that revenue stream begins to dry-up, the company could collapse.  Which is not to say that a smaller, leaner MS could not still sell products like the Office suite, probably even better versions; but it is to say that MS&#039;s days as king of the hill will be coming to a screeching halt.  MS could very easily become a very small player in the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is there anything that XP can&#8217;t do&#8230;or Apple can&#8221;</p>
<p>Buzzcut, you really need to spend some time on a Mac using the Apple operating system.  The differences are staggering.  When I used PC&#8217;s, wasted at least an hour a day complaining, re-booting, calling our IT techie, etc.  I&#8217;ve been using macs in my new business for 10 months and I&#8217;ve never had one of those days, nor the need even have the number for let alone call an IT techie.  The products just work.  Wonderfully intuitive.  Brilliantly designed.  No viruses.  No spyware.  No worrying about opening attachments.  No lost work product.  Etc., etc.</p>
<p>Microsoft is getting killed in the netbook market.  And here&#8217;s the problem.  PC&#8217;s cannot compete with Apple on the product quality level and can no longer compete with netbooks on cost.  That&#8217;s a recipe for disaster.  Those Windows&#8217; licensing fees still drive MS&#8217;s business model.  If that revenue stream begins to dry-up, the company could collapse.  Which is not to say that a smaller, leaner MS could not still sell products like the Office suite, probably even better versions; but it is to say that MS&#8217;s days as king of the hill will be coming to a screeching halt.  MS could very easily become a very small player in the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzzcut</title>
		<link>http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2009/01/26/whats-up-at-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-9493</link>
		<dc:creator>Buzzcut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Glad I opted for XP and not Vista when I bought my lap top 2 years ago.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t know a thing about Vista.  My computers are old enough that they came with XP (one came with 98, updated with XP over 5 years ago).  Work computers are XP.

Is there anything that XP can&#039;t do that Vista (or Apple) can?

On the positive side for MS, it seems like netbooks largely come with XP now.  That has to be an explosive market for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Glad I opted for XP and not Vista when I bought my lap top 2 years ago.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know a thing about Vista.  My computers are old enough that they came with XP (one came with 98, updated with XP over 5 years ago).  Work computers are XP.</p>
<p>Is there anything that XP can&#8217;t do that Vista (or Apple) can?</p>
<p>On the positive side for MS, it seems like netbooks largely come with XP now.  That has to be an explosive market for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
		<link>http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2009/01/26/whats-up-at-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-9492</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great discussion.  Thanks for all your ideas and links.  It&#039;s still hard to think about betting against Microsoft (few people have done well doing that in the past).  But, then again, that was Microsoft under Gates, who seems to have moved on to other interests.

Glad I opted for XP and not Vista when I bought my lap top 2 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion.  Thanks for all your ideas and links.  It&#8217;s still hard to think about betting against Microsoft (few people have done well doing that in the past).  But, then again, that was Microsoft under Gates, who seems to have moved on to other interests.</p>
<p>Glad I opted for XP and not Vista when I bought my lap top 2 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember &quot;nobody gets fired for buying IBM&quot;?  The same conservative, risk-averse corporate and government purchasing is what drives Microsoft&#039;s profitability.  (I believe the US government is Microsoft&#039;s largest customer.)

Industry &quot;buzz&quot; and retail trends can be early indicators of a shift, or they can be meaningless.  Back in 1996, Corel was thrilled when WordPerfect for Windows outsold Word for Windows at retail.  Looking back, it&#039;s obvious they were fighting and winning the wrong battle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember &#8220;nobody gets fired for buying IBM&#8221;?  The same conservative, risk-averse corporate and government purchasing is what drives Microsoft&#8217;s profitability.  (I believe the US government is Microsoft&#8217;s largest customer.)</p>
<p>Industry &#8220;buzz&#8221; and retail trends can be early indicators of a shift, or they can be meaningless.  Back in 1996, Corel was thrilled when WordPerfect for Windows outsold Word for Windows at retail.  Looking back, it&#8217;s obvious they were fighting and winning the wrong battle.</p>
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		<title>By: hayden fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayden fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and one more, because I cannot resist, an ad for &quot;ZunePhone&quot;... this one might be my favorite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRKIDdIaFyE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and one more, because I cannot resist, an ad for &#8220;ZunePhone&#8221;&#8230; this one might be my favorite: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRKIDdIaFyE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRKIDdIaFyE</a></p>
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		<title>By: hayden fisher</title>
		<link>http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2009/01/26/whats-up-at-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-9469</link>
		<dc:creator>hayden fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and for anyone who has further doubts, watch this hilarious clip: http://blimptv.blogspot.com/2007/11/vista-sucks.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and for anyone who has further doubts, watch this hilarious clip: <a href="http://blimptv.blogspot.com/2007/11/vista-sucks.html" rel="nofollow">http://blimptv.blogspot.com/2007/11/vista-sucks.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: hayden fisher</title>
		<link>http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2009/01/26/whats-up-at-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-9466</link>
		<dc:creator>hayden fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a great piece from a Linux leader on MS&#039;s woes: http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8154244993.html

MS&#039;s problem is that the slippery slope nose-dives fast, it will only take a few Linux-driven machines being sold coupled with Apple&#039;s quickly advancing market-share to do-in MS.  Name one new innovative product coming out of MS?  It&#039;s humorous that MS and Detroit teamed-up with the Microsoft Sync system they paraded on t.v. last year-- here we have the worst in American product-design packaged together and we wonder why they need a bailout.  Windows Vista?  Not.  MS Zune? Not.  X-Box? --they actually stole that technology from Apple to, the old Apple operating system, but it&#039;s now been passed by too.  Outlook?  Please.  Windows Explorer?  Garbage, even PC owners replace it with the free Firefox.  Etc., etc., etc.

MS has lots of money and plenty of time to re-structure and re-focus.  But that cannot happen with Balmer at the helm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a great piece from a Linux leader on MS&#8217;s woes: <a href="http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8154244993.html" rel="nofollow">http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8154244993.html</a></p>
<p>MS&#8217;s problem is that the slippery slope nose-dives fast, it will only take a few Linux-driven machines being sold coupled with Apple&#8217;s quickly advancing market-share to do-in MS.  Name one new innovative product coming out of MS?  It&#8217;s humorous that MS and Detroit teamed-up with the Microsoft Sync system they paraded on t.v. last year&#8211; here we have the worst in American product-design packaged together and we wonder why they need a bailout.  Windows Vista?  Not.  MS Zune? Not.  X-Box? &#8211;they actually stole that technology from Apple to, the old Apple operating system, but it&#8217;s now been passed by too.  Outlook?  Please.  Windows Explorer?  Garbage, even PC owners replace it with the free Firefox.  Etc., etc., etc.</p>
<p>MS has lots of money and plenty of time to re-structure and re-focus.  But that cannot happen with Balmer at the helm.</p>
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