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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2009/01/30/the-rise-of-the-district/comment-page-1/#comment-10061</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another person taking a shot at DC. DC has for the past 65 years been the most powerful in the capital in the world and while Obama coming into office has focused more attention on the city recently we werent some outpost in the middle of nowhere before. 

The reason DC has the highest incomes is because it is the highest educated metro area in the country both in terms of bachelors degrees and advanced degrees. The suburbs are technology capitals (MD with biotech and VA with IT) with more technology workers than the SF area. So while the Fed. govt might be a huge presence in and around the metro area, it is by far not the only thing. 

The city also has a great quality of life (parks, museums, sporting events, culture, etc).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another person taking a shot at DC. DC has for the past 65 years been the most powerful in the capital in the world and while Obama coming into office has focused more attention on the city recently we werent some outpost in the middle of nowhere before. </p>
<p>The reason DC has the highest incomes is because it is the highest educated metro area in the country both in terms of bachelors degrees and advanced degrees. The suburbs are technology capitals (MD with biotech and VA with IT) with more technology workers than the SF area. So while the Fed. govt might be a huge presence in and around the metro area, it is by far not the only thing. </p>
<p>The city also has a great quality of life (parks, museums, sporting events, culture, etc).</p>
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		<title>By: Buzzcut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzzcut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do we want the federal government as a source of innovation? Of course not. But it can do a much better job of fertilizing the soil so that the entrepreneurs can grow their businesses and create new products and services responsive to our newfound needs.&lt;/i&gt;

Sorry, I just think that that is delusional at best.  What incentives do bureacrats have to innovate?  Your ideas totally ignore who runs the government and what incentives they have.  Risk taking is simply not rewarded in any way, and with no risk-reward link, how exactly is there going to be any innovation?

The most frightening thing about all this is that entrepreneurs are actually abandoning real projects and looking at how they can slant their businesses to profit from the &quot;stimulus&quot;.

My buddy has an IT business, and he&#039;s looking at how he can get a cut of the &quot;stimulus&quot;, instead of going out and finding real customers.

Like I said, frightening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do we want the federal government as a source of innovation? Of course not. But it can do a much better job of fertilizing the soil so that the entrepreneurs can grow their businesses and create new products and services responsive to our newfound needs.</i></p>
<p>Sorry, I just think that that is delusional at best.  What incentives do bureacrats have to innovate?  Your ideas totally ignore who runs the government and what incentives they have.  Risk taking is simply not rewarded in any way, and with no risk-reward link, how exactly is there going to be any innovation?</p>
<p>The most frightening thing about all this is that entrepreneurs are actually abandoning real projects and looking at how they can slant their businesses to profit from the &#8220;stimulus&#8221;.</p>
<p>My buddy has an IT business, and he&#8217;s looking at how he can get a cut of the &#8220;stimulus&#8221;, instead of going out and finding real customers.</p>
<p>Like I said, frightening.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Innovation coming from Washington?  Ha.  That&#039;s like teaching a hippo to dance.

&quot;sanctioned science&quot;????  Damn, does that send a chill down my spine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Innovation coming from Washington?  Ha.  That&#8217;s like teaching a hippo to dance.</p>
<p>&#8220;sanctioned science&#8221;????  Damn, does that send a chill down my spine.</p>
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		<title>By: hayden fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayden fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Progressive federalism; let&#039;s define its roots: Hamilton + Teddy Roosevelt.  I&#039;ve been positing that we&#039;re headed towards this type of governmental evolution for almost a year on this blog.  We need to stop looking at government as bad vs. good.  The world has become increasingly complex, the advent of the internet, e-mail and electronic light-speed information transfer have truly quantum-leaped us into a new era.  When it comes to finance, yes, we need central banks and nationally if not globally integrated monetary policy.  We need flexibility AND STABILITY in the market.  Uniformity promotes efficiency, we need this on the national security and defense level as well as the fiscal regulatory level.  Do we want the federal government as a source of innovation?  Of course not.  But it can do a much better job of fertilizing the soil so that the entrepreneurs can grow their businesses and create new products and services responsive to our newfound needs.  

As for the power of states and cities, I disagree.  Cities are much more powerful than they&#039;ve ever been as density and place grow in prominence.  The concept of regionalism is equally essential to prosperity.  Yes, revenues are down, across the board.  Yes, some municipalities and states will need treasury assistance.  We&#039;re in the worst economic collapse since the &#039;30&#039;s, what would one expect!  But the long-term outlook is much different.  Income taxes are at all-time lows and more cuts have been initiated, that equals less federal revenue and more consumption, ie, more sales, real estate and other local and state taxes to be collected in the future; more money being decentralized.  In the interim, hopefully we&#039;re laying the groundwork and governmental infrastructure necessary to support the next economic era.

Is the stimulus plan full of pork?  Of course it is, especially from the House, these are local politicians bringing back the bacon for their districts; the Senate version will be better.  But lots of that spending is on education and infrastructure too.  In any event, we could argue the stimulus plan all day but with regard to the overall transformation of government, the effects and consequences have been misconstrued and misstated and the necessity seemingly lost upon some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progressive federalism; let&#8217;s define its roots: Hamilton + Teddy Roosevelt.  I&#8217;ve been positing that we&#8217;re headed towards this type of governmental evolution for almost a year on this blog.  We need to stop looking at government as bad vs. good.  The world has become increasingly complex, the advent of the internet, e-mail and electronic light-speed information transfer have truly quantum-leaped us into a new era.  When it comes to finance, yes, we need central banks and nationally if not globally integrated monetary policy.  We need flexibility AND STABILITY in the market.  Uniformity promotes efficiency, we need this on the national security and defense level as well as the fiscal regulatory level.  Do we want the federal government as a source of innovation?  Of course not.  But it can do a much better job of fertilizing the soil so that the entrepreneurs can grow their businesses and create new products and services responsive to our newfound needs.  </p>
<p>As for the power of states and cities, I disagree.  Cities are much more powerful than they&#8217;ve ever been as density and place grow in prominence.  The concept of regionalism is equally essential to prosperity.  Yes, revenues are down, across the board.  Yes, some municipalities and states will need treasury assistance.  We&#8217;re in the worst economic collapse since the &#8217;30&#8217;s, what would one expect!  But the long-term outlook is much different.  Income taxes are at all-time lows and more cuts have been initiated, that equals less federal revenue and more consumption, ie, more sales, real estate and other local and state taxes to be collected in the future; more money being decentralized.  In the interim, hopefully we&#8217;re laying the groundwork and governmental infrastructure necessary to support the next economic era.</p>
<p>Is the stimulus plan full of pork?  Of course it is, especially from the House, these are local politicians bringing back the bacon for their districts; the Senate version will be better.  But lots of that spending is on education and infrastructure too.  In any event, we could argue the stimulus plan all day but with regard to the overall transformation of government, the effects and consequences have been misconstrued and misstated and the necessity seemingly lost upon some.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Times today ran an analysis about &quot;progressive federalism&quot;, where the national government allows states more freedom to innovate, like the California emissions standards or state attorneys general joining in lawsuits, etc. The Bushies actually were much more devoted to centralizing power in D.C. 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/30/us/politics/30federal.html?_r=1&amp;ref=us

So that&#039;s a rebuttal about government. As far as the American overall power center, the Wall Street financial debacle has definitely weakened NYC&#039;s centrality. And Detroit hasn&#039;t been a serious player for decades. But rather than state capitols, I&#039;d still look at LA and NYC as centers of power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Times today ran an analysis about &#8220;progressive federalism&#8221;, where the national government allows states more freedom to innovate, like the California emissions standards or state attorneys general joining in lawsuits, etc. The Bushies actually were much more devoted to centralizing power in D.C.<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/30/us/politics/30federal.html?_r=1&amp;ref=us" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/30/us/politics/30federal.html?_r=1&amp;ref=us</a></p>
<p>So that&#8217;s a rebuttal about government. As far as the American overall power center, the Wall Street financial debacle has definitely weakened NYC&#8217;s centrality. And Detroit hasn&#8217;t been a serious player for decades. But rather than state capitols, I&#8217;d still look at LA and NYC as centers of power.</p>
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		<title>By: CTC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in DC and benefit by being a consultant for the government.  But, I agree with the sentiment expressed by other posters.  Having a huge influx of power and economic activity around here because of an expanded government is not really the best thing.

I do, however, quibble with Buzzcut a bit.  DC has a little more non-government industry than some think.  Marriott, Volkswagen USA, Hilton (soon to be) are headquartered here, for example.

But, the overall point remains valid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in DC and benefit by being a consultant for the government.  But, I agree with the sentiment expressed by other posters.  Having a huge influx of power and economic activity around here because of an expanded government is not really the best thing.</p>
<p>I do, however, quibble with Buzzcut a bit.  DC has a little more non-government industry than some think.  Marriott, Volkswagen USA, Hilton (soon to be) are headquartered here, for example.</p>
<p>But, the overall point remains valid.</p>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Buzzcut. Federalism is a good thing. It allows for the dynamism and personality that we all enjoy. &quot;The legitimate object of government is to do for a community of people whatever they need to have done, but can not do at all, or can not so well do, for themselves – in their separate, and individual capacities,&quot; said Abe.

The same should be said for federal government. Let the cities do all they can on their own. Let the states do all they can on their own. Let the federal government undertake only what is left over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Buzzcut. Federalism is a good thing. It allows for the dynamism and personality that we all enjoy. &#8220;The legitimate object of government is to do for a community of people whatever they need to have done, but can not do at all, or can not so well do, for themselves – in their separate, and individual capacities,&#8221; said Abe.</p>
<p>The same should be said for federal government. Let the cities do all they can on their own. Let the states do all they can on their own. Let the federal government undertake only what is left over.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzzcut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzzcut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh... this isn&#039;t a good thing.  It goes to show the growing power of the federal government.

I can&#039;t seem to find the link, but Arnold Kling linked to a study showing that the &#039;burbs of DC are now THE highest income areas in America.  They have no real industry.  They&#039;re where government workers sleep at night.

This has real consequences for the so called stimulus.  With all the federal spending in there, it is essentially stimulating an area that already has very little unemployment and lots of people who are already overpaid.

Yeah, that will work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh&#8230; this isn&#8217;t a good thing.  It goes to show the growing power of the federal government.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t seem to find the link, but Arnold Kling linked to a study showing that the &#8216;burbs of DC are now THE highest income areas in America.  They have no real industry.  They&#8217;re where government workers sleep at night.</p>
<p>This has real consequences for the so called stimulus.  With all the federal spending in there, it is essentially stimulating an area that already has very little unemployment and lots of people who are already overpaid.</p>
<p>Yeah, that will work.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Kotkin is high.  It&#039;s funny how rich areas of the country are coming hat in hand asking the Feds for money, i suppose.  A bit of comeuppance, as it were.  but what happens when the Feds tell them to drop dead?  You think they stay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Kotkin is high.  It&#8217;s funny how rich areas of the country are coming hat in hand asking the Feds for money, i suppose.  A bit of comeuppance, as it were.  but what happens when the Feds tell them to drop dead?  You think they stay?</p>
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