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	<title>Comments on: Failure &#8211; Essential in the Creative Workplace</title>
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		<title>By: fail now! fail fast! &#171; Innovation Leadership Network</title>
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		<dc:creator>fail now! fail fast! &#171; Innovation Leadership Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 02:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] always welcome in businesses. Wendy Waters, writing at Richard Florida&#8217;s Creative Class site, gets at this issue nicely. Here&#8217;s one of they key quotes: “If you’re going to have an innovative culture, you must [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] always welcome in businesses. Wendy Waters, writing at Richard Florida&#8217;s Creative Class site, gets at this issue nicely. Here&#8217;s one of they key quotes: “If you’re going to have an innovative culture, you must [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Swordsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swordsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miles, you might want to read Kevin Phillips.  He makes some exceptionally interesting points in his latest two books.

Clearly, we&#039;ve quite literally borrowed our prosperity, both on an individual level and a national level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miles, you might want to read Kevin Phillips.  He makes some exceptionally interesting points in his latest two books.</p>
<p>Clearly, we&#8217;ve quite literally borrowed our prosperity, both on an individual level and a national level.</p>
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		<title>By: miles</title>
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		<dc:creator>miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wendy I couldn&#039;t agree more with your view on GM.  Unfortunately, a lot of jobs are going to be vaporized with its bankruptcy, which is probably why we bailed them out at the time.

You are dead on in pointing out the fundamental difference between bailing out Wall Street and GM:  one is the creditor, one is the credit-addict.

I would go further to suggest that Wall Street is what kept GM from failing decades ago.  Perhaps Wall Street loans are not all that different from government bailouts after all, at least not to GM.  For Washington this might have been something new, but perhaps for GM it was just business as usual.

Was GM no less subprime than home owners who borrowed beyond their means?  If so, how many other industries or companies walked the same road?  More poignantly, have we emerged from the American Century not only as the sole superpower, but also a subprime nation in disguise? When the American economy looks itself in the mirror, does it see GM? How about that family with the foreclosed home?

These are scary thoughts, and I&#039;m not sure what to make of them.  Nevertheless I just finished a blog post about this..  I would be honored by any insights!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy I couldn&#8217;t agree more with your view on GM.  Unfortunately, a lot of jobs are going to be vaporized with its bankruptcy, which is probably why we bailed them out at the time.</p>
<p>You are dead on in pointing out the fundamental difference between bailing out Wall Street and GM:  one is the creditor, one is the credit-addict.</p>
<p>I would go further to suggest that Wall Street is what kept GM from failing decades ago.  Perhaps Wall Street loans are not all that different from government bailouts after all, at least not to GM.  For Washington this might have been something new, but perhaps for GM it was just business as usual.</p>
<p>Was GM no less subprime than home owners who borrowed beyond their means?  If so, how many other industries or companies walked the same road?  More poignantly, have we emerged from the American Century not only as the sole superpower, but also a subprime nation in disguise? When the American economy looks itself in the mirror, does it see GM? How about that family with the foreclosed home?</p>
<p>These are scary thoughts, and I&#8217;m not sure what to make of them.  Nevertheless I just finished a blog post about this..  I would be honored by any insights!!</p>
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		<title>By: tom barthelemy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom barthelemy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a difference between failure and flopping.  

When you are pushing the envelope in your work you need to be constantly looking over your own shoulder, recognizing what did not work in the recent past and tweaking todays work to avoid making the same mistake.

What the worthies on Wall St and the banking industry were doing was justifying their own excessive risk by noting that everyone else was doing it.  &quot;These mortgage backed securities don&#039;t make a lot of sense to me, but Moe &amp; Curly seem to think they&#039;re a great idea.&quot;

You are not likely to learn anything from mistakes made by emulating Moe &amp; Curly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a difference between failure and flopping.  </p>
<p>When you are pushing the envelope in your work you need to be constantly looking over your own shoulder, recognizing what did not work in the recent past and tweaking todays work to avoid making the same mistake.</p>
<p>What the worthies on Wall St and the banking industry were doing was justifying their own excessive risk by noting that everyone else was doing it.  &#8220;These mortgage backed securities don&#8217;t make a lot of sense to me, but Moe &amp; Curly seem to think they&#8217;re a great idea.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are not likely to learn anything from mistakes made by emulating Moe &amp; Curly.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buzzcut -- I love the nuclear analogy.  Nuclear engineers are smart, creative people who understand the power of that with which they work.  Certain derivitives, Mortgage-backed securities, etc. do  have some value and utility in an investment portfolio when employed by people who fully understand them.  

But the ability to buy and sell them does not equal the ability to understand them.  Therein created some of the financial crisis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzzcut &#8212; I love the nuclear analogy.  Nuclear engineers are smart, creative people who understand the power of that with which they work.  Certain derivitives, Mortgage-backed securities, etc. do  have some value and utility in an investment portfolio when employed by people who fully understand them.  </p>
<p>But the ability to buy and sell them does not equal the ability to understand them.  Therein created some of the financial crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: Swordsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swordsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Banning something, whether it be nukes or credit default swamps or pot, just drives it underground.

Regulate it.  All of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banning something, whether it be nukes or credit default swamps or pot, just drives it underground.</p>
<p>Regulate it.  All of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzzcut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzzcut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I personally think that the subprime 120% equity option ARM interest only mortgage is one of mankind&#039;s greatest inventions, but like nuclear weapons... be careful what you wish for. ;)

Seriously, there was an incredible amount of innovation on Wall Street: options, derivatives, credit default swaps, mortgage backed securities, etc.  Like nuclear weapons, once they were out of the hands of the inventors, wielded by people who perhaps didn&#039;t fully understand their power, THAT&#039;S when the trouble started.

And like nuclear weapons, perhaps it is better for us all to ban these inventions.  Obama seems to want to ban nukes... but I haven&#039;t heard anything about getting rid of credit default swaps and mortgage backed securities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I personally think that the subprime 120% equity option ARM interest only mortgage is one of mankind&#8217;s greatest inventions, but like nuclear weapons&#8230; be careful what you wish for. <img src='http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/_wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously, there was an incredible amount of innovation on Wall Street: options, derivatives, credit default swaps, mortgage backed securities, etc.  Like nuclear weapons, once they were out of the hands of the inventors, wielded by people who perhaps didn&#8217;t fully understand their power, THAT&#8217;S when the trouble started.</p>
<p>And like nuclear weapons, perhaps it is better for us all to ban these inventions.  Obama seems to want to ban nukes&#8230; but I haven&#8217;t heard anything about getting rid of credit default swaps and mortgage backed securities.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that failure should be an accepted outcome in all types of business. However, I don&#039;t think that this argument, whilst constructive in creative industries, should be used to protect the class of people who have landed us in the current economic crisis.

Fundamentally, we&#039;re not talking about a creative industry. Moving wealth around is not creating wealth. Wealth creation comes from innovation in making better things. It comes from engineers, scientists, artists and designers and not the inept class of managers and financiers who find themselves in the fortuitous situation of farming the rest of us who are the true talent. The true talent goes largely uncompensated.

For the creative class, our greatest strategic goal is to find someone to work for who is smart enough to not interfer too much in what we do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that failure should be an accepted outcome in all types of business. However, I don&#8217;t think that this argument, whilst constructive in creative industries, should be used to protect the class of people who have landed us in the current economic crisis.</p>
<p>Fundamentally, we&#8217;re not talking about a creative industry. Moving wealth around is not creating wealth. Wealth creation comes from innovation in making better things. It comes from engineers, scientists, artists and designers and not the inept class of managers and financiers who find themselves in the fortuitous situation of farming the rest of us who are the true talent. The true talent goes largely uncompensated.</p>
<p>For the creative class, our greatest strategic goal is to find someone to work for who is smart enough to not interfer too much in what we do.</p>
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		<title>By: Swordsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swordsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that destroying the global economy deserves condemnation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that destroying the global economy deserves condemnation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Wells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not failed. I&#039;ve just found 10,000 ways that won&#039;t work. -- Thomas Edison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not failed. I&#8217;ve just found 10,000 ways that won&#8217;t work. &#8212; Thomas Edison</p>
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