Comments on: Is the U.S. Facing a Brain Drain? http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2010/03/12/is-the-u-s-facing-a-brain-drain/ The source on how we live, work and play Wed, 07 Dec 2011 18:10:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Shonna Matyi http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2010/03/12/is-the-u-s-facing-a-brain-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-47603 Shonna Matyi Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:41:30 +0000 http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/?p=13955#comment-47603 bilover: This blog gets that kind of visitors all the time. At least she admitted to it. The others thought they can get away with it. bilover: This blog gets that kind of visitors all the time. At least she admitted to it. The others thought they can get away with it.

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]]> By: Daniel Cheslock http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2010/03/12/is-the-u-s-facing-a-brain-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-47541 Daniel Cheslock Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:34:15 +0000 http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/?p=13955#comment-47541 Dead written articles , Truly enjoyed reading . Dead written articles , Truly enjoyed reading .

]]> By: Nik http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2010/03/12/is-the-u-s-facing-a-brain-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-33302 Nik Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:23:24 +0000 http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/?p=13955#comment-33302 Well it looks like US is no longer the best! Wait for 10 more years and we Americans will be forced to look for jobs in India and China. Competing with those guys wont be easy given that our education system is also bearing the brunt of this recession while India and China are moving ahead with some of the best schools in the world. Its time to wake up and draw down on our excesses. Well it looks like US is no longer the best! Wait for 10 more years and we Americans will be forced to look for jobs in India and China. Competing with those guys wont be easy given that our education system is also bearing the brunt of this recession while India and China are moving ahead with some of the best schools in the world. Its time to wake up and draw down on our excesses.

]]> By: Heath Arensen http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2010/03/12/is-the-u-s-facing-a-brain-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-17220 Heath Arensen Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:46:30 +0000 http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/?p=13955#comment-17220 Not only are American's leaving for better jobs overseas but they are also finding it easier to set up businesses abroad. Countries are increasingly creating investment incentives for companies in strategic industries. I would say setting up a software services business in Amman, Jordan was as easy or easier than setting it up in the states. This is a trend that will continue as the world becomes increasingly globalized. Not only are American’s leaving for better jobs overseas but they are also finding it easier to set up businesses abroad. Countries are increasingly creating investment incentives for companies in strategic industries. I would say setting up a software services business in Amman, Jordan was as easy or easier than setting it up in the states. This is a trend that will continue as the world becomes increasingly globalized.

]]> By: Michael Wells http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2010/03/12/is-the-u-s-facing-a-brain-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-17059 Michael Wells Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:02:07 +0000 http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/?p=13955#comment-17059 Check out this article about American companies building research facilities in China. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/18/business/global/18research.html?ref=business Check out this article about American companies building research facilities in China.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/18/business/global/18research.html?ref=business

]]> By: Wendy http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2010/03/12/is-the-u-s-facing-a-brain-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-17027 Wendy Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:39:20 +0000 http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/?p=13955#comment-17027 Bruce, The United Arab Emirites are where Dubai and Abu Dhabi are. These cities have been growing rapidly and borrowing the talent from North America and Western Europe to manage the process -- and the labour from Bangledesh (but we'll leave that issue aside for now). Point being, I actually know and know of a large number of people who are doing or have done a few years in the middle east. Incredible experience. English is the language of business there, so Americans are not at a disadvantage. I know various people who don't speak Chinese who do business in China and have a regular translator who travels around with them while they are chatting with suppliers and factories. The United States just doesn't have the monopoly on great professional opportunities the way it once did. Bruce,

The United Arab Emirites are where Dubai and Abu Dhabi are. These cities have been growing rapidly and borrowing the talent from North America and Western Europe to manage the process — and the labour from Bangledesh (but we’ll leave that issue aside for now).

Point being, I actually know and know of a large number of people who are doing or have done a few years in the middle east. Incredible experience.

English is the language of business there, so Americans are not at a disadvantage.

I know various people who don’t speak Chinese who do business in China and have a regular translator who travels around with them while they are chatting with suppliers and factories.

The United States just doesn’t have the monopoly on great professional opportunities the way it once did.

]]> By: LVM http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2010/03/12/is-the-u-s-facing-a-brain-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-17016 LVM Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:55:17 +0000 http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/?p=13955#comment-17016 Are Richard Florida et al. worried about brain drain from Canada or the United States, or both? Is this a regional protectionist concern? Since Florida is stationed in Canada (Rotman) but speaking about the US, it is unclear who he is actually concerned for. Moreover, one wonders if there are ethnocentrist undertones to Florida's statements. Why shouldn't we want the best graduates to go where their talents will be best recognized and recompensed? Are we more concerned about the region/state, or the students themselves? Would we rather that exceptional students 'stay home' and be under-utilized? Is this issue even REALLY about student recruitment? Or does it stem from bigger problems resulting from government interference in education (ie, interference with market signals)? Are Richard Florida et al. worried about brain drain from Canada or the United States, or both? Is this a regional protectionist concern? Since Florida is stationed in Canada (Rotman) but speaking about the US, it is unclear who he is actually concerned for. Moreover, one wonders if there are ethnocentrist undertones to Florida’s statements. Why shouldn’t we want the best graduates to go where their talents will be best recognized and recompensed? Are we more concerned about the region/state, or the students themselves? Would we rather that exceptional students ’stay home’ and be under-utilized? Is this issue even REALLY about student recruitment? Or does it stem from bigger problems resulting from government interference in education (ie, interference with market signals)?

]]> By: Wil http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2010/03/12/is-the-u-s-facing-a-brain-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-16987 Wil Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:12:15 +0000 http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/?p=13955#comment-16987 A huge percentage of young Americans are brain dead, cell phone worshipping, junk food eating zombies, so in the future there will be fewer scientists coming from the US. These days the young need apps to do even the most simple functions that people a generation ago used to do in their heads, without computer support. Since virtually nothing is made in the USA anymore, the few intelligent graduates are choosing to go where they can use their talents, which, currently, is in other countries. However, it would be a positive benefit to have all of the MBAs going abroad, because it will slow down development in other countries,and give the US a chance (sure to be wasted)to somehow do better with the next generation. A huge percentage of young Americans are brain dead, cell phone worshipping, junk food eating zombies, so in the future there will be fewer scientists coming from the US. These days the young need apps to do even the most simple functions that people a generation ago used to do in their heads, without computer support. Since virtually nothing is made in the USA anymore, the few intelligent graduates are choosing to go where they can use their talents, which, currently, is in other countries. However, it would be a positive benefit to have all of the MBAs going abroad, because it will slow down development in other countries,and give the US a chance (sure to be wasted)to somehow do better with the next generation.

]]> By: Fred http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2010/03/12/is-the-u-s-facing-a-brain-drain/comment-page-1/#comment-16956 Fred Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:02:48 +0000 http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/?p=13955#comment-16956 I'm in agreement that we have a significant problem that fewer Americans are filling the science and engineering slots in graduate school. As a consequence, the majority of the benefit in our investment in technical education appears to be heading overseas. However, I think this phenomena should not be labeled "brain drain" but Instead "lame brain" due to the unwillingness and unpreparedness of too many American youth to undertake rigorous scientific work. As to the fleeing of MBA's to chase their fortunes overseas, perhaps they will do the same things for Chinese banks they did for US banks, perhaps they will also find ways to eliminate Chinese jobs by outsourcing to poorer countries. I'm not convinced that most MBAs contribute to the creation of a sustainable economy. I’m in agreement that we have a significant problem that fewer Americans are filling the science and engineering slots in graduate school. As a consequence, the majority of the benefit in our investment in technical education appears to be heading overseas. However, I think this phenomena should not be labeled “brain drain” but Instead “lame brain” due to the unwillingness and unpreparedness of too many American youth to undertake rigorous scientific work.
As to the fleeing of MBA’s to chase their fortunes overseas, perhaps they will do the same things for Chinese banks they did for US banks, perhaps they will also find ways to eliminate Chinese jobs by outsourcing to poorer countries. I’m not convinced that most MBAs contribute to the creation of a sustainable economy.

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