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		<title>By: Your Future</title>
		<link>http://www.creativeclass.com/_v3/creative_class/2010/06/04/the-great-car-reset/comment-page-1/#comment-46779</link>
		<dc:creator>Your Future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 00:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The automobile is now a liability - financially, environmentally, socially, morally.

The road of the future - until they crumble - will be occupied by walkers, skaters, skateboarders, cyclists and resurgent wild animal populations.

Oil is only going to get more expensive as its supply dries up. The automobile as mechanical dinosaur will become extinct just as surely as the biological dinosaur did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The automobile is now a liability &#8211; financially, environmentally, socially, morally.</p>
<p>The road of the future &#8211; until they crumble &#8211; will be occupied by walkers, skaters, skateboarders, cyclists and resurgent wild animal populations.</p>
<p>Oil is only going to get more expensive as its supply dries up. The automobile as mechanical dinosaur will become extinct just as surely as the biological dinosaur did.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the real reason for the change in data, as mentioned above, is that there is now a much higher barrier to entry to getting your drivers license.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the real reason for the change in data, as mentioned above, is that there is now a much higher barrier to entry to getting your drivers license.</p>
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		<title>By: Mind Miss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mind Miss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When considering incredible high end autos, the Europeans maintain the leadership, as a result of such legendary brands as Rolls-Royce, Bentley, Aston Martin, and Maserati. Cherish luxury, enjoy life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When considering incredible high end autos, the Europeans maintain the leadership, as a result of such legendary brands as Rolls-Royce, Bentley, Aston Martin, and Maserati. Cherish luxury, enjoy life.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>North America, especially Canada has become an urban nation. When teenagers live in the city with full access to wireless communications and reasonable transit, it would be more of burden to drive.  Think about all those mid-night texts making changes on the fly as to where to go.  Kids can run from one club to the next or pile into a cab, cars are just not cool.  Randy Backman talked about the live music days in the Prairies.  Kids would jump into a beater drive 100 miles, getting hammered on the way and make it to the second show at the community centre.  Now, with the crackdown on drunk driving, this is a thing of the past.  Less driving and a lot less live music.  I grew up in a car family; dad had car dealerships; Ford, American Motors, &quot;Datsun&quot;, Rolls Royce and Volvo.  Getting cheap cars from trade ins was great.  Today, no car, no need.  My kids haven&#039;t even brought up the subject and neither have their friends.  It&#039;s a different world, their generation has been freed of autoholic addiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>North America, especially Canada has become an urban nation. When teenagers live in the city with full access to wireless communications and reasonable transit, it would be more of burden to drive.  Think about all those mid-night texts making changes on the fly as to where to go.  Kids can run from one club to the next or pile into a cab, cars are just not cool.  Randy Backman talked about the live music days in the Prairies.  Kids would jump into a beater drive 100 miles, getting hammered on the way and make it to the second show at the community centre.  Now, with the crackdown on drunk driving, this is a thing of the past.  Less driving and a lot less live music.  I grew up in a car family; dad had car dealerships; Ford, American Motors, &#8220;Datsun&#8221;, Rolls Royce and Volvo.  Getting cheap cars from trade ins was great.  Today, no car, no need.  My kids haven&#8217;t even brought up the subject and neither have their friends.  It&#8217;s a different world, their generation has been freed of autoholic addiction.</p>
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		<title>By: John Prentice</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Prentice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silver&#039;s article is terrible, and the statistics you cite are more examples of stretching inference beyond a reasonable doubt.

Silver&#039;s &quot;model&quot; of car miles is based on a) a trend line, b) unemployment, and c) gas prices.  As if NOTHING has changed in American society in that period that might be affecting the level of car usage?  

Silver&#039;s additional &quot;evidence&quot; that we might be moving to a car free existence consists of comparative home price changes during the depths of the housing crisis.  The first set of cities: Vegas, Phoenix, and Detroit. The second set: Seattle and Portland.

Right.  Those cities only differ on the variable &quot;miles driven&quot;.  There is no other difference that might account for those housing price differences.

Does Silver even know that Portland has, in fact, been losing families?

Of course not.  Silver runs a few statistics and makes some grand generalizations and then moves on to the next model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silver&#8217;s article is terrible, and the statistics you cite are more examples of stretching inference beyond a reasonable doubt.</p>
<p>Silver&#8217;s &#8220;model&#8221; of car miles is based on a) a trend line, b) unemployment, and c) gas prices.  As if NOTHING has changed in American society in that period that might be affecting the level of car usage?  </p>
<p>Silver&#8217;s additional &#8220;evidence&#8221; that we might be moving to a car free existence consists of comparative home price changes during the depths of the housing crisis.  The first set of cities: Vegas, Phoenix, and Detroit. The second set: Seattle and Portland.</p>
<p>Right.  Those cities only differ on the variable &#8220;miles driven&#8221;.  There is no other difference that might account for those housing price differences.</p>
<p>Does Silver even know that Portland has, in fact, been losing families?</p>
<p>Of course not.  Silver runs a few statistics and makes some grand generalizations and then moves on to the next model.</p>
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		<title>By: BoyAboutOaktown</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoyAboutOaktown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect there are many factors at work.  The rise of insurance rates and vehicle maintenance costs are tough for young people to take on.  In urban areas, parking, street damage and theft turn many people off of the idea of owning a car.  

There&#039;s also a shift of values.  Sure you can get attention for driving a nice car, but in urban areas that may be seen as tacky or striving.  One can also get just as much attention for having the latest phone or going out to hipper night spots. 

Finally, with young people leaving college deeply in debt and often carrying substantial credit card balances, adding another 20 or 30K to the debt load just isn&#039;t feasible.  As a result, you have people entering adulthood without a personal car ever being a part of the journey. They settle in urban spots with nearby mass transit and bus or bike to work and drinks.  As adults who have learned how to thrive without a car, why would they take on that burden?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect there are many factors at work.  The rise of insurance rates and vehicle maintenance costs are tough for young people to take on.  In urban areas, parking, street damage and theft turn many people off of the idea of owning a car.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a shift of values.  Sure you can get attention for driving a nice car, but in urban areas that may be seen as tacky or striving.  One can also get just as much attention for having the latest phone or going out to hipper night spots. </p>
<p>Finally, with young people leaving college deeply in debt and often carrying substantial credit card balances, adding another 20 or 30K to the debt load just isn&#8217;t feasible.  As a result, you have people entering adulthood without a personal car ever being a part of the journey. They settle in urban spots with nearby mass transit and bus or bike to work and drinks.  As adults who have learned how to thrive without a car, why would they take on that burden?</p>
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		<title>By: Manzell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manzell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a caveat here - the ability for a teenager to get a license has changed, and the costs of a car have risen significantly. Given that very few high-school students need a car to be economically productive, parents may be less willing/able to provide a car for their kids than they were in the 70&#039;s and 80&#039;s.

Additionally, many states now require multi-stage licensing that can significantly delay the age at which a kid gets their license.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a caveat here &#8211; the ability for a teenager to get a license has changed, and the costs of a car have risen significantly. Given that very few high-school students need a car to be economically productive, parents may be less willing/able to provide a car for their kids than they were in the 70&#8217;s and 80&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Additionally, many states now require multi-stage licensing that can significantly delay the age at which a kid gets their license.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference may be that older people are driving more than they did in 1970, not that young people are driving less. If you compare VMT figures from 1970 to today that is certainly the case, whether it accounts for the entire difference or not. What the numbers show is that 40 years ago there was a larger percentage of older Americans who had not adopted the car culture, while young people were adopting it enthusiastically.

As for the declining drivers licenses, I think that is also problematic. My nephews and nieces aren&#039;t getting drives licenses because their parents aren&#039;t willing to pay the insurance. Again, the demographics show that the percentage of children growing up in poverty or families with limited means have increased. Its not that kids are abandoning the car culture, its that they can&#039;t afford it until they are out on their own.

Moreover, evaluating the decline in the percentage of miles driven by young people without considering the decline in their percentage of the adult population doesn&#039;t tell you much about their personal choices. This article seems to be wishful (hopeful?) thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference may be that older people are driving more than they did in 1970, not that young people are driving less. If you compare VMT figures from 1970 to today that is certainly the case, whether it accounts for the entire difference or not. What the numbers show is that 40 years ago there was a larger percentage of older Americans who had not adopted the car culture, while young people were adopting it enthusiastically.</p>
<p>As for the declining drivers licenses, I think that is also problematic. My nephews and nieces aren&#8217;t getting drives licenses because their parents aren&#8217;t willing to pay the insurance. Again, the demographics show that the percentage of children growing up in poverty or families with limited means have increased. Its not that kids are abandoning the car culture, its that they can&#8217;t afford it until they are out on their own.</p>
<p>Moreover, evaluating the decline in the percentage of miles driven by young people without considering the decline in their percentage of the adult population doesn&#8217;t tell you much about their personal choices. This article seems to be wishful (hopeful?) thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Herzog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ari Herzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How realistic is your (and Advertising Age&#039;s) article to look at cars and their drivers in a vacuum? What of the types of cars they drive, or the rising price of fuel and maintenance and insurance, or the geographies where their cars are based? You mention ride sharing but not public transit. You mention housing but not McMansions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How realistic is your (and Advertising Age&#8217;s) article to look at cars and their drivers in a vacuum? What of the types of cars they drive, or the rising price of fuel and maintenance and insurance, or the geographies where their cars are based? You mention ride sharing but not public transit. You mention housing but not McMansions.</p>
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		<title>By: Rethink Every Assumption</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rethink Every Assumption</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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