Comments on: Uneven Effects of the Crisis

By: Buzzcut

Buzzcut — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:14:52 +0000

Richard, can you clarify a little more?

Let’s stick with Buffalo, which I know well, having gone to UB.

So, in the city itself, you do have the meds. The County hospital, Children’s Hospital. UB is building a medical research corridor.

And you have UB. Their presence in the city is shifting. They have an old campus on the outskirts of the city, their new campus is in the ‘burbs. They’re repurposing their old campus towards medicine, in addition to that medical corridor downtown.

So you’re saying that this focus on medicine and education is common in the rustbelt? And that it doesn’t generate wage growth?

Both are news to me.

Does it matter if there is an interaction between the meds and the eds? UB seems to me to do a very good job of grabbing research dollars. They’ve got their hands in everything. This might be a differnt kind of “ed” than, say, Buffalo State University, which is just an old teachers college.

Considering that your data was Buffalo vs. Boston… probably not.

By: RF

RF — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:43:35 +0000

Meds and eds – means, er medical/ healthcare and education. Kevin Stolarick’s number crunching and research shows pretty clearly that these are virtually the only game in town in many older cities. Todd Gabe has picked up on this in his recent work on jobs/ occupations across regions. While visiting the Institute a month or two ago, he showed us a remarkable bar graph chart, comparing the Boston metro to the Buffalo metro. Boston had huge bars for many regionally specialized and high paying occupations. Buffalo’s were all clustered along the X axis. Nothing particularly specialized, nothing spectacularly high paying. Michael Porter taught us this a long time ago, and my colleagues Roger Martin and Jim Milway have been driving this point home in Canada. Regions generate wealth based on highly clustered industries, and as Stolarick would add on highly clustered, specialized and distinctive jobs. Meds and eds are much more dispersed, and our research show they add little if anything to regional income levels. Hope this helps.

By: Michael Wells

Michael Wells — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:20:13 +0000

The stimulus infrastructure spending should help the construction and engineering sectors. But Martin’s question in Quo Vadis about what’s being done for arts, design, etc. is relevant. We can only grow if we encourage creativity.

I wonder what healthcare support means. Is it the waste in the US system caused by unnecessary paperwork? It’s scary if the fastest growth is in an unproductive sector. And is the personal care and service increase more low paid workers in assisted living centers?

By: Buzzcut

Buzzcut — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:57:42 +0000

the U.S. economy may start to look like the meds-and-eds dependent economies of old rustbelt city-regions.

What’s that? Never heard it put that way, “Meds and eds”.

What are you saying, that, for example, Buffalo’s only growing industry is the county hospital and/or SUNY Buffalo?